February 7, 2012; Philadelphia, PA USA; New York Islanders goalie Evgeni Nabokov (20) celebrates a win with teammates New York Islanders defenseman Steve Staios (24) and right wing P.A. Parenteau (15) at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia. The Islanders defeated the Flyers 1-0, winning the shootout, 2-0. Mandatory Credit: Eric Hartline-US PRESSWIRE

Why is there so much hate in Islander Country?


Preface:  I apologize for not writing after the season ended.  I am currently looking for a job, and sometimes the look is getting a little frustrating.  A number of things got to me, and I frankly let things slip.  This was one of them.  I am so sorry about that.

Eyes on Isles is looking for writers to come on board.  If you are interested, please e-mail me at [email protected]

Also – will be making my comments on the playoffs in my next post.

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Why is there so much hate in Islanders Country?

A question that continues to bother me…

As an Islander fan – we have been subjected to a great deal over the past few decades.  Let me state some.

1.  Multiple Ownership

2.  Inept General Managers (in my opinion, not the current one)

3.  Players that have not lived up to expectations

4.  Lack of playoff success

That is the summary of the issues.

We all know that we have suffered a lot as fans.  We have taken more body blows than a Ali sparring partner.  The abuse level from rival fans is also at crazy levels.  I do not need to be sold on the facts.  I know them as much as you all do.

When the season ended, I was frustrated as any die-hard supporter.  I hated to see the season end, knowing that my team was not making the playoffs once again.  In some instances, I was quite mad!  The young talent needs to get the experience of April – June hockey, and with this lineup, it was just not going to work.

Is the GM at fault?

I am sure that Garth would say that some players did not execute the way they should (ask the guy that wore #12 for Boston in the playoffs).  Guys just did not live up to expectations.  Players that suffered the blues after a great season the year before.  These things happen to every team.

Since our team was eliminated, we got the fourth pick of the upcoming NHL draft.  With that being said, the Islanders announced plans for their Annual Draft Party.  This is a time for the Islanders to celebrate the newest player to become a part of the organization.  Despite the fact that the team is not in the playoffs, the team is promoting this event.  I see absolutely no reason to do so.  This is a time for the Islanders to give something back to their loyal fans.   By having a party at the Coliseum, having the players come, give the folks a little fun on a Friday night, and introduce the newest Islander to the community; what exactly is so bad about that?

So the Islanders promote this on Facebook, Twitter, and their web site.  A chance to get the fans started to look forward to a better year next season.  And what comments come out of this?

A lot of them have probably been taken off the site, but most of them are blasting Charles Wang, Garth Snow, and every bad thing that has been happening on Long Island in the last 20 years.  Pardon the expression, but that is so much crap!

Why this post?  Why is this the method to post negativity?  What does the owner of the team have to do with the promotion of an event?

I am just as frustrated as anyone else.  I want to see  them successful.  I want to gain some respectability in the hockey circles.  I want the Islanders out of the lower echelon of the league.

I am so under the impression that so many of the fans that were on facebook are hard core passionate fans.  I am not denying any of their thoughts and feelings.  That is not my M.O.

Fans, like the word ‘fanatic’, can be obsessive about their love/hate for a team.  This is exactly what we are seeing.  Comments about ownership/management/players instead of talking about what can be done to improve the future.

It just seems that all I hear is negativity.  Although part of me wants to say, “GET LOST”, I won’t.  It is your right to feel how you feel.

But I will tell you this.  Your comments are not going to make Mr. Wang leave his ownership duties, or Garth Snow no longer be the GM.  It will not make players want to come here, or not.  It will not make the team leave either.  All it does, is shine the Islanders in a lousy light.  And that, SICKENS me!

If you want to be an Islander fan, be it.  I may not agree with everything that goes on, but I stay on the boat.

Will change happen?  I hope so.

Will they make a major move on draft day?  Maybe.

All I can say, and I know that many faithful people are out there.  We have to drown out the negative, in a respectful way.  By staying true it shows the Islanders that there are many who feel that the right path is in reach.  It shows that there are many that believe that despite all the bumps, that the asphalt is smoothing out, and good times are ahead.

I am staying true to form… Are you?

Mar. 31, 2012; Uniondale, NY, USA; New York Islanders center John Tavares (91) and right wing P.A. Parenteau (15) celebrate with teammates after scoring a goal during the second period against the Boston Bruins at Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum. Mandatory Credit: Debby Wong-US PRESSWIRE


Tags: New York Islanders

  • nyifancentral

    I could not agree more. Far too much hate combined with so few willing to listen. Same mix in 2000 with far lower attendance. Well done.

  • Tavjoh

    This post sickens ME.  Hey pal, the last 20 years has been an exciting one for Isles fans hasn’t it?  Instead of bitching about it, you should be glad there are actual fans who still give a damn about this team. People who are not willing to stand by and watch this team be destroyed by Wang.  So how are we supposed to let our displeasure be heard?  SOCIAL MEDIA  C’mon Pal. 

  • LiamTheAnarchis

    Tavjoh is part of everything that’s wrong with a group of Islander fans. Without Wang, this team would have left the Island a long time ago. Any other Owner would have given up with trying to get a new building and announced plans to move elsewhere by now for 2015. Wang seems to be the one person working towards keeping the Isles on Long Island despite all the insanity that entails.
     
    The problem with a lot of the angry fans is that they are fans of other NYC area teams, and believe that the team can just throw money away in order to ice a competitive team. Ignoring the fact that there have been only one or two big names during the last few years of free agency. Or that realistically with grabbing guys like Parenteau, Moulson, Streit, Roloson, Snow has probably been one of the bigger winners in FA.
     
    And the funny thing is that these same people will mock the Rangers for their last 15 years of free agent signings and moves “Just one player away” which kept them from being a contender since 94.
     
    Milbury basically traded away a Cup contending team during the 90s to the Senators with his impatience. Finally we’ve got a GM trying to build a team the right way and showing patience with the youngsters and he gets nothing but ridicule. It will be funny when all these negative Nancies change their opinions when the team is competitive again.

  • Tavjoh

    Yes. I and countless others are whats wrong with Isles fans.  So sorry for being upset with the lack of progress for the last 20 years!  Thank you Chuck for buying the team.  Now what has this team accomplished in Wangs tenure? A celebrated series loss to the TML? NHL record 5 straight lottery picks? Tatoo Lous?
    Milbury is a joke and was a horrible GM. Everyone can agree on that.  Nobody is looking for Snow to “Milbury” the team.  Wang controls too much of hockey ops.  Hows that 15 yr deal with Rickey working out? Hire a back up goalie to be the GM? Comical  mickey mouse stuff. The only  recent “marquee” FA signing was Streit. PAP and Moulson were signed and got playing time because we were so talent depleted.  Who will be this years Brian Rolston and Jay Pandolfo??? Gotta get to that cap floor some how. Good thing Yash is still on the payroll.  Scott Gomez in an Isles jersey?I hope to god not but I wouldnt be surprised.
    Will we re-sign PAP? They better.  Were 30th in payroll!   All our recent signings- Grabs, Franz, KO, JT are all back loaded.  Needs: 2nd line C and help on D.   Has Garth made any real trades since the Smyth deal? Eventually Garth is going to have to trade some of our prospects/picks to aquire needed pieces. I’m not asking to sell the farm and spend crazy.  Show me something this summer.  Alas, I expect to hear “its the buildings fault” with the lack of FA acquisitions and the isles boasting how rookies CDH and Matt Donovan are NHL ready.
     
    Oh and what Isles team were you watching in the 90′s that was cup contending? 

  • jlazar57

     @Tavjoh I like how you keep bitching, but never propose any solutions. That’s par for the course with people like you. 

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  • Tavjoh

     @jlazar57 You want to talk solutions?  A new owner for starters.  In the mean time how about opening the wallet Wang? Too bad no one will sign here because of the building.  I love everyone defending Wang.  The man who said he regrets buying the Isles and wouldn’t do it over again if he had the chance. So tell me jlazar57, what is your solution?   Pencil in  Strome, Nino, CDH and Donovan next year.  It did wonders for Nino last year

  • TobySmith

    My perennial malaise has worn off. It actually didn’t last as long his year as I thought it would. I went through the, “hell no, I’m not renewing my season tickets” phase to the, “yes, of course another year” thought process.

    I absolutely understand the anger and rage, and fans have a choice, but I agree; spare the negativity.

  • webbard

     @Tavjoh How dare Wang admit that he regrets buying the Islanders after losing 200 million on them over the last decade and having to fight with the idiotic town of hempstead. Oh and finally, just when it looks like they might be making progress towards a new arena, people vote it down.
     
    Ironically the people who voted it down wanted Wang to pay for it himself, which was what he was willing to do all along. But hey, that’s what we have politicians for.

  • Tavjoh

     @webbard It was reported Wang net worth was close to 900 million dollars. Cry me a river.  Under the new lease agreement, do you still think Charles is losing as many millions ?  I think not.  He’s got money coming in from the lucrative cable contract and the Isles have a bare bones payroll. Under the new lease agreement he receives money from every event at the coliseum- ticket sales, concessions, parking etc.    I’d love to see the books. Charles says it isn’t about money.  It CLEARLY is.  Since the LHP was sunk, so was any chance of Wang investing $$$ into this team.  We spend to the CAP FLOOR. Spend money to make money Chuck.    The whole arena situation is a debacle.  We can agree on that. Political parties fighting amongst another, each with their own agenda.

  • nyifancentral

     @Tavjoh  @webbard  That new SUB lease agreement cost another 17m dollars. Wang opened the books in 2003 to the Times and to Newsday in 2009 through Ernst and Young.
     
    Wang was spending 45m before there was a cap floor, he locked up every player his gm could sign long-term (even Nabkov, Nielsen)
    and they all want to be here.
     
    His gm tried to sign Martin and Ehrhoff at the very least.
     
    Prove they don’t spend to the cap floor? Is it because rookie Niederreiter was here? That makes no sense because deHaan has the same ELC and was drafted three years ago.
     
    How did Comeu, Roloson, and Wisniewski all get traded or waived for no return if the team was at the floor?
     
    Sorry, but Wang does not get what every other New York and New Jersey team received and that’s tons of taxpayer money. Dolan get’s his 11m check since 1981.